Hazbin Critical - Blog Posts

Maybe it's just me, but Hazbin Hotel under Viv feels more like an "on paper" show. She never should've fired those other writers who make the pilot possible.

That frustrated me to no end because...how would that contribute to the story? Roo/Eve or Lilith being Alastor's captor gives him some form of reason to get involved with Charlie. Perhaps he wanted to get vengeance on Lilith by targetting her daughter? We've already noticed little details from the Pilots that he wasn't too fond of the Morningstars, but for what reason?

I was enjoying Alastor and Rosie's dynamic because it showed he was capable of making friendships and being genuine with someone. It adds something to his character, people are wary of Alastor and the main reasons he was around the Hotel wwas because 1, he's a feared Overlord, it helps prevent raids on it and 2, he's great support for running the hotel. Almost everyone knows Alastor is up to absolutely no good and is planning something bad to happen. He's a sadistic murderer plotting something awful, nobody knows his true intentions. He's not completely genuine with a lot of sinners.

But then Rosie, a person who's presence he actually seemed to enjoy. Someone he seems to truly be genuine with. Every fan was commenting how wholesome their friendship was. It adds something to Alastor's character that he isn't a manipulative and sadistic killer all the time, there's a softer side to him.

But no, boom...Rosie owns Al...and all that just gets tossed out of the window when their friendship could be explored meaningfully but what can I expect out of Hazbin?

Spoiler Alert: Leaks have come out- they might change but heres my criticism that might have someone watching this tumblr to re-consider.

You're telling that Rosie- the Rosie; happens to be Alastor’s captor? That's not even a plot twist, that's a plot disappointment. Why reveal that so early in the season if you want people to give a fuck about the show? Scrap that entire scene while you can, because it’s going to leave people extremely disappointed and pissed off. Rosie should be a demon friend Alastor knows, not his captor.

Like damn- my theory about Roo being Al’s captor sounds significantly more interesting. Even Lilith being Al’s captor is more interesting than Rosie is.

Fucking scrap it!

What's the point of having characters from different time periods when they behave and swear like they're edgy american teens?

i’m not a fan of hazbin hotel but ngl some of the criticism directed towards the shows writing is really strange and a bit nitpicky at times

“you can’t make a joke about a sensitive topic and then treat it as a serious matter when you’re not joking!” uh. yes you can lmao

Another au screenshot edit as I've been neglecting this place

hazbin hotel review!

yeah, i’m late to the bandwagon. i saw the pilot when i came out, was fiercely praying for the rest of it, but fell out of love with the fandom tbh for a while. but it’s good to be back on the air!

solid 7/10 show. very fun to watch, enjoyable characters and musical numbers, and compelling visuals. misc observations below the cut; some of it will be critique, some of it analysis.

i really liked zestial but the writers switched between thou/you so inconsistently and even incorrectly

carmilla was a compelling character, but i don’t think they can give her that moral code and also make her an arms dealer. why wouldn’t she want war? why wouldn’t she want to sell the only weapons that can aid demons in this war? “i need to protect my family” wasn’t enough of a motivation for me. they could’ve easily given her a different profession and it would’ve made perfect sense. i also didn’t like her hands.

favorite characters: alastor, vox, lucifer, charlie

least favorite characters: cherri bomb and,,, im sorry,, angel dust

favorite/least favorite status comes from how interesting or annoying they were for me to watch, not which ones were the most sympathetic (i thought angel was quite sympathetic, just poorly written)

angel mostly just got on my nerves in the first half of the show because every bit of dialogue was either a sex joke or exposition about his trauma and why he is the way he is. but mostly just talking about sex. and they gave him jack shit to do in the second half of the season. i think conceptually he’s a great character but in execution there’s not a lot of depth to him; they need to give him a personality beyond his profession imo

alastor’s best moments came ‘seeing him in action’ like in his songs and the scary animation moments (those were soo good). i also really liked the cannibalism town scenes with rosie. i often thought his dialogue was lacking and they sometimes didn’t do a great job separating things he would say from generic things any ‘vivziepop character’ would say (‘i’m going to fucking kill you’ or whatever he said to adam)

charlie could be grating at times but i feel like all in all she was a solid and sympathetic protagonist and kept me rooting for her the entire time

one aspect i really really liked is the fact that no one knows what gets souls into heaven. i think that’s a good way for covering the lack of a cohesive standard of moral degeneracy in hell—most people just drink, fuck, and do drugs. the murderers and cannibals make sense, val makes sense, etc, but most actual characters in hazbin and helluva boss seem to have an inherent understanding of right and wrong that is quite standard. i really hope the criteria for salvation is explored further—is it conservative christian values? is it something else? is it predestination? is it haphazard? this is really really interesting to me!!!

furthermore, the fact that sir pentious died and went to heaven is obviously a sign in charlie’s favor that redemption is possible, which paints hell as more of a purgatory or even ‘second earth’ than a traditional christian hell. i wonder what god/jesus will be like in the hellaverse. i’m half predicting a sort of wizard of oz situation

my only other theory is that by the end of the show a shift will have occurred from charlie focusing on reforming souls to get into heaven and instead on reforming souls and hell itself to be a better place

Pilot Alastor will forever be the superior version of Alastor from his charming Transatlantic and radio filtered yapping to the way he carried himself and was never power hungry.

I'm kinda pissed about Alastor… like he turned out to be a major disappointment for me for a number of reasons. The pilot had promise for him to be quirky and silly which happened to have a darker side to him; and he could have been a mannered but not snarky character- but instead we get another snark fest character like the rest of the cast. Seriously? How many characters does Viv have that aren't “witty” (oh that's generous) and sarcastic all the fucking time?

Since when is Mrs. Mayberry is a lesbian?

Like, don't get me wrong, I don't mind she is a lesbian

What I don't get is how she literally murder her husband and went to hell for it. That her whole story of she ended up in jail.

A lot of people tried to make up for this by saying she could've been like stolas. She was forced by social pressure into dating/marrying a man.

Here the thing, again, she literally her murder her husband after finding out he cheated on her. She was crying while doing that action.

Other people also tried to say it because of the efforts she put into the relationship and the marriage as a whole to act straight it was all for waste since it was thrown out by her husband cheating on her.

Which is a fine prediction, however there no scene where she appears in that make me go, "Wow she driven insane by her husband actions of cheating after she forced herself to play the part of good straight wife."

Also, why she in a relationship with the woman her husband cheated on her with?????

Didn't Martha also have a husband and kids? What in the world happened to them!??

I'm gonna be real. I'm all up for the wife x mistress trope, but truly, I don't believe Mrs. Mayberry and Martha are going to have a healthy relationship at all.

I just wished spindlehorse would take more care and effort in their character sexuallity rather than just reusing and slapping on a random sexuallity.

You know what weird is it angel birthday sure? But it also molly birthday..his twin sister

Wait you so right!

I completely forgot about it being Molly's birthday, too! Honestly, now that I think about it, Viv and the fandom never really talk about her.

I get she not known character, but you think the creator would celebrate both characters on their birthday.

(Unless, of course, Viv decided to change Angel and Molly from being twins to being just siblings)

Did they just reveal everything big in season 2?

You know what weird? There are a lot of characters from HB and HH who have daddy/parental issues.

Hh:

Charlie, Angel, Alastor, and Abel

Hb:

Moxxie, Blitz, Octavia, and Stolas

Honestly, I feel like in season 2 or at some point of Hazbin Hotel, it gonna be revealed that both Alastor and Angel have daddy issues or parental issues.

And it doesn't help the leaks reveal that Abel has daddy issues as well.

(There are probably more characters that have parental/daddy issues that I probably forgot to include.)

But as a whole, the amount of daddy issues or parental issues as a whole is just really repetitive.

And it is not like the show writers are doing anything different. They always villianize the mom and make the dad a sympathy uwu twink or it the opposite where the mom was a total angel while the dad was just horrible.

It always the same, like the only parents that we have seen that have been good to their kids and to each other has been Millies parents.

I kind of wish Viv would stop changing the lore on things

Like, don't get me wrong, changing lore can help show good development of your writing skills from where you started.

What I'm saying is that Viv has a habit of changing lore or a character base off a popular ship or theory. Not to mention, she has another habit of spilling too much about her story.

Take Sir Pentious and Cherry Bomb being in a relationship as an example. They were never supposed to be in romantic relationship, instead Sir Pentious was supposed to have feelings for Rosie.

However, the fandom started to ship Sir Pentious and Cherry together, Viv changed it so Sir Pentious would have feelings for Cherry.

I just wished altogether that Viv would step back from the fandom just a bit, so she can hopefully stop the need to change the lore of Helluva or Hazbin to please the fandom.

Viv never stops to surprise me

"I think the reason why I allowed my fans to call people a term used by nazi's is because I actually agree with them and that if you criticize my content you should be equated as an undesirable."

This is what I am reading from this, Viv is NOT escaping the neo-nazi allegations. If that lower half is "your answer" then I don't care. You are NOT helping yourself, you literally (And tell me if I am reading this right.) justified your fans neo-nazi ideologies by saying its deserved because criticals?

So you're admitting it's fine to neo-nazis as long as they don't criticize your work? Fucking lmaooo

Warning, there will be talks of spoilers of season 2 because I will be mentioning the leaks:

Every time viv says something is going to be the greatest thing she ever made or loves, it ends up being... how to put it lightly... really, REALLY rushed or bad.

Like I'm seeing the different ways on how the season will be rushed. Due to the leaks, we know that Alastor will be kidnapped by Vox at some point, so I totally see Viv and the writers rushing to get to that plot faster.

So the less interesting plot points are left in the dust until Viv and the writers remember about it and quickly have to include it in some way.

"I care about sa victims!"

Viv, you literally lied about one of your employees being a victim of sa to win a petty Twitter fight.

And not to mention, that person you said was a victim of sa, they shipped your character angel with their r@pist!?!

I do want to give a benefit of a doubt that maybe Viv didn't know or misunderstood and thought that Raphielle was a victim of sa.

However, at the same time, it is hard to do so. Because how come Viv didn't double-check to make sure what she was saying was true?

And if Raphielle was really a victim of sa, Viv shouldn't have brought that up without their permission. Imagine going on Twitter and seeing your boss saying you were a victim of sa to prove a point in a petty fight.

All-around unprofessional behavior coming from Viv in this situation.

My issues with emberlynn valentines merch

■ I don't love how skinny she looks

■ her outfit is....okay? I mean it not the best but it not the worst. It just not giving sexy to me.

Overall, I like the pink and blue color scheme they picked out for her.

My slight edit/redesign of her:

■ I tried my best to give some of her chubbier body back, and I think I did a good job!

■ I made her have a more sexier pink outfit...why? Because we don't have a lot of sexier merch or merch in general of the fat characters we have in Hazbin or Helluva.

I just got the chance to see the valentine merch and I have to say I'm not really impressed.

If I have time this week, I might make some posts discussing what I did and didn't like about the merch.

Did anyone else forget about this necklace?

Like this piece of information is so forgettable! This jewelry can protect the user who wears it, but it has never been mentioned again since this short.

There are so many questions I have!

● How does the merch company know how to make this?

● Is the company owned by heaven? (Or the very least angels)

● Does anyone else know this type of jewelry exists?

● Is there more jewelry like that out there?

Honestly, I wished they played more with this idea. Instead of a stort, it was a full episode of I.M.P trying different ways to kill her.

It starts with blitz because he believes it is going to be a normal, easy job that he can do by himself since moxxie sick, millie on a another kill job, and loona is busy with getting clients schedules to work. However, over time, he calls for backup one by one.

It goes millie, loona, and finally a very sick moxxie.

Blitz - "Mox, I gonna be real you look like shit."

Moxxie - "Thank you, sir... now what the problem? All I see is a normal human girl."

Loona - "That normal human girl necklance is literally helping her survive every trick we got on killing humans."

Millie - "We have tried everything! We tried the axe trick to-"

Blitz - "To the rope trick I did at your guys' 1st date."

Moxxie - *blowing his nose* "Then why I'm here? You couldn't use the Grimorie to find more information?"

Loona - "We already tried to find more information on the necklace in the Grimorie, but we couldn't find anything other than the user willingly has to take off the necklace."

Then Moxxie goes up to Emberlynn, then we have the exact same scene in the short where Emberlynn is, "Oh demon, you here for little old me~? But instead of Blitz, it Moxxie

After all that, she takes off the necklace for Moxxie, and Loona/Blitz is like, "we wasted the entire day for this when we could've called Moxxie ages ago."

And Millie is being held back from stabbing Emberlynn even more.

So, to be honest, do we even know stella species supposed to be? I mean, her brother is a peacock, but stella looks nothing like a female peacock.

> I took the 3 biggest guesses on what she supposed to be swan, peacock (peahens), and secretary bird to see what matches her more

> stella beak matches the swan beak

> her long eye lashes matches sercerty bird long eye lashes

> stella dress I put a question mark on because it quite a hot mess of feathers that could be all 3

> stella arm sleeve remind me of the servertary bird legs

> her hair reminds me of when peahen show off their back feathers like the male peacock. But halfway though, I decided that sounded insane, so I also put a question mark on her, saying it could be all 3.

I decided to include pilot stella and see how much she looked like a peahen.

> I realized the crown thing both pilot and canon stella wear could be based on crown looking thing on top of the peahen head

> her face marking where it goes down her face really looks peahen face markings

> again, with my theory, her hair is based on peahen showing off their back feathers like the male peacock

> pilot stella eyeshadow matches the blue on peahen neck

> the gray on her dress also match the gray on peahen body

> the white on stella matches peahen white as well

My theory:

I do believe pilot stella species is peahen, but when they started to redesign her for the show, the team decided to make her a hybrid of some kind.

However, while typing this, I realized if stella is a hybrid, that means her brother andrealphus is a hybrid as well.

Unless, of course, andrealphus is her half-brother or stepbrother. But the show does implied they are blood related.

So, I'm also leaning towards stella is actually a peahen. The team just had difficulty designing her to look like one, so they just picked the best one.

Does anyone remember that velvette supposed to be a witch/potion maker?

I sure didn't!

I was checking her wiki because I wanted to include something about her during a conversation with my friend.

And I read about how she made love potions with the help of Valentino. And then I remember the whole she is a witch/influencer/fashion designer.

I don't know whether making her have a talent in potion making is a good idea when everyone forgets. Or it mashed in with her other stuff.

Conference post

How come loona has so many forms?

Like aren't hellhounds supposed to be the lowest class in hell hierarchy?

I mean, it would make sense if she learned all these forms from the book, but it never stated to be case

So, like, all hellhounds have this many forms and somehow lower class under imps?

And if this is the case, hell hierarchy makes little to no sense to me. Because how is magical species of dogs with many forms lower than another species of hellborn with no powers.

Sometimes, I wish I had never learned to read... because then I wouldn't have to read this nonsense

I mentioned before in another post, but Millie is obviously stressed because one now she can't do her job because it is stressful and dangerous (things you should avoid while pregnant)

Leaving moxxie as the sole provider until she is ready to come back and work. Pride + hell as a whole is a very expensive place to live, and her not getting paid for a month doesn't help to soothe her worries that she can have a kid and not worry about money.

Like, yeah, business is great, but how long until the next big bad decide to ruin that for them?

Second, it also obvious that Moxxie and Millie never had a talk about whether or not kids were something they wanted at the moment.

So she worried how a kid will impact their relationship. Because kids can really make or break your relationship.

Another thing I should mention again is their job is really dangerous. Their field creates many enemies, so the baby safety is always at risk.

Not only that, Imps are basically humans, they can die from an injury. So what will happen if Millie and Moxxie died during a mission? who takes care of the baby? Who will make sure the baby is safe?

There are a lot of stressful/painful what if you have to consider, especially in place like hell where anything can happen.

So, it obviously Millie called Sallie for support not because Sallie is the baby other parent.

https://www.tumblr.com/strangegardendelusion/771083289809338368/no-because-that-is-a-insane-take-she-is-a

"So we all collectively agree that Octavia is dead to us, right"

Me: https://youtu.be/P_n1ekWd0Q4?si=Z6oznNO7GcMV3RV8

Yeah, there are no "we" in agreement with her video

Almost all her comments disagree with what she has to say

(I do want to mention she is entitled with her opinion. And even though I and many others disagree, she is absolutely entitled to her opinion. I just hope she open to hearing what others have to say about her opinion. Since many creators sometimes make a big deal when someone disagree with their opinion)

NO!?!? BECAUSE THAT IS A INSANE TAKE!??!

She is a child, and stolas is an adult who has made his bed and has to deal with the consequences of said choices

(Even though I admit octavia, fears of abandonment have been shown and resolved way too many times. I blame the show writing for not giving her more to do other than being a plot device)

It has been proven time and time again that octavia is not the most confident in believing stolas won't abandoned her and run off with blitz

And what does stolas do with his actions without hesitating to prove his daughter wrong and he will never leave... abandoned her and left to save blitz life

Then, once he begins his new life with blitz, he forgets about her until the mention of rats got him to remember to call her.

(Honestly, I was confused later on when stella was like, "he trying to call all month." So, like, did stolas forget about via only that day or week? The timeline is very confusing.)

Once again, proving his fantasies with blitz are more important than octavia.

A good father would be doing everything he could to make sure he gets his daughter back as fast as possible. Especially if his daughter is in the custody of two people who try to kill him.

He would be getting a lawyer, trying to get court to rehear everything out, and of course, try to get his daughter forgiveness even if it takes years to rebuild.

But stolas does nothing but cry because he poor the entire episode...

These are my guesses on why abel is blonde

1st

Either "Eve is lilith" or "Eve looks just like lilith" theories are canon

Or

2nd

Lucifer and Eve had an affair making abel lucifer bio kid

Honestly, by way things are going with the writing, the insane amount of cheating, and how it is handled in both shows (especially Helluva)

I feel like it is going to be a mixture of both theories that are gonna be canon

Where lucifer had an affair with Eve because he probably saw lilith in her and felt pity for her being adam wife

And abel is born out of the affair, and Eve never told lucifer. Rasing abel as adam son, adam of course knowing abel is not his, is probably the reason why he didn't like abel (in the leaks lute revealed that adam didn't care much for abel)

Then the show is going to make a plot twist of "abel is lucifer son! How could you have ever known??!?"

Making even more sympathy for lucifer character. Also, to villianize Adam even more without considering the possibility of making him a complex character.

For Eve honestly I'm little worry fans going to villianzie her. Fans are probably going to call her horrible for not telling lucifer he has a kid or something. And how it her fault for the entire mess.

Also adding onto the Abel reblog post. How comes he's blonde and not brown or at least the same color as Adam's hair since according to the Bible, Abel is Adam's son. But I'm not Vivziepop so maybe she got rid of the whole 'Abel is Adam's son' thing kinda like how she for some reason made ST Peter a young, blonde man when the actual ST Peter is a bearded old man not blonde at all.

Again, If Vivziepop wants to retell the characters or redesign them in her own way then that's perfectly fine by me but maybe don't make them look thin af or look like tumblr sexyman bait.

To my knowledge, abel died as a young adult/adult due to being murdered by his older brother, cain

But in my opinion, it is true he looks more like a kid than a young adult/adult, so abel may have died younger(?)

But I have no clue since hazbin has shown to be going in a different direction and changing a lot of things

Like adam is said to be the first soul in heaven. So, in the hazbin version, it implied abel was the second to die and went to heaven after his dad

But that just my guess since hazbin lore and timeline they are trying to lay out is just so confusing

I also hope abel is adam's kid, and the show doesn't try to pull off. "lucifer is actually abel dad, and adam isn't!"

I just saw abel design in the new Christmas pic, and I have to say, I did not expect him to be blonde

> I like his color palette

> Not gonna lie, He looks like that band kid that you sometimes have a chill chat with whenever you need someone to talk to

Now, my friend and I talk about abel design when the leaks came out. And we were not the biggest fans on him looking like a copy and paste of adam.

So, him being blonde is not the bad thing. It is just the fact it feels like we have a lot of blonde characters already. Why not give other colors a try.

I did black, brown, and ginger-brown hair colors to see how which one looked on him

> I did black because a lot of people think/headcannon eve has black hair color

> did brown for adam hair color

> I also did ginger-brown hair color since people also think/headcannon eve has this hair color

And out of the entire bunch, I have to say ginger-brown is my favorite! It matches the overall vibe of his character, and it goes great with his color palette.

I just saw abel design in the new Christmas pic, and I have to say, I did not expect him to be blonde

> I like his color palette

> Not gonna lie, He looks like that band kid that you sometimes have a chill chat with whenever you need someone to talk to

Now, my friend and I talk about abel design when the leaks came out. And we were not the biggest fans on him looking like a copy and paste of adam.

So, him being blonde is not the bad thing. It is just the fact it feels like we have a lot of blonde characters already. Why not give other colors a try.

I did black, brown, and ginger-brown hair colors to see how which one looked on him

> I did black because a lot of people think/headcannon eve has black hair color

> did brown for adam hair color

> I also did ginger-brown hair color since people also think/headcannon eve has this hair color

And out of the entire bunch, I have to say ginger-brown is my favorite! It matches the overall vibe of his character, and it goes great with his color palette.

The number of people I have seen talking about how millie cheated is so worrying 😟

Like, guys, Millie characteristic (for the longest time) is that she loves her husband

Why in the world would she cheat?

She probably stressed/worried for 2 reasons

● Imp won't let her do her job now since she pregnant

Since it is stressful and dangerous, the 2 biggest things you should avoid being pregnant

(And I realized while typing this that the writers are going to have stolas take over her job and work with imp in the human world)

● plus, it clearly implied that Millie and moxxie never talked about the idea of having kids. Or they did, but they planned to have kids more in the future

So it got Millie stressful on what moxxie reaction will be and what their life will look now with baby in it

How do you feel about the new episode

Honestly, I didn't plan to watch the new episode today since I'm both sick and busy.

But tiktok spoiled Millie pregnancy for me, and right now, I'm debating actually watching the episode to see what else is going to happen

Vassago character is just another character that wasn't really needed:

● his character doesn't add anything to the plot, story, or any of the characters as a whole

● Plus, the only character that is shown to really know vassago is andrealphus

Andrealphus and vassago argument sounded they knew each other and now hate each other

While..

When stolas is like, "the only way I know how...song."

Vassago loudly start saying, "Yes, Yes cantalo baby!"

Stolas looked at him as, "okayyyyyyy weird, but whatever."

If stolas was his friend or knew him, he would've been like, "Oh hey, vassago!" Or something like that

● as mentioned earlier, he contributed nothing to the trial/plot even though he was hyped up to be an important pivitol plot character for months

Only for him to say barely anything and only thing meaningful he did was saying that stolas was needed since this was his trial in way

But then nobody listened, and stolas ended up coming to basically just to save blitz life