I Like To Think That Thanks To Jason's Death, Dick's Hair Became Straighter And Let It Grew Bacause He

After seeing the underground still in ruin after the fire 10 years ago, a injury that made him unable to stay as a royal guard and Spruce/Papyrus now not needing Forest/Sans to take care of him, Forest got into a depression. The think getting him out of it being his brother giving him a new purpose; to restore the underground to is former, blooming, glory.

(I posted this on youtube too)

YOURE SO RIGHT??? LIKE AAA?!?!

"I follow you around, I always have But you've gone to a place I cannot find"

Nightmare's there one day and suddenly has vanished in the blink of an eye. Dream realizing that, when he awakens, that his brother isn't there in Dreamtale anymore. That Nighty isn't by his side. Then once he too escapes Dreamtale, seeing his own brother cause all pain for hundreds out in the wider multiverse, all after watching him murder the village. Visually seeing how much he's changed- down to the color of his magic. Then pausing, watching, thinking, and finally hearing that his brother isn't there anymore. He's gone.

"But a tiny voice whispers in my mind "You are lost, hope is gone But you must go on And do the next right thing"

This is also so Dream, like, aarhhghgnnjkjlmklmk. He'd say something similar to this to himself. Please I'm seeing Dream say this and him just being utterly broken by everything around, then picking himself back up because it's the only thing he is able to do. (but also the idea of "that voice" being pass!nightmare)

"Can there be a day beyond this night? I don't know anymore what is true I can't find my direction, I'm all alone The only star that guided me was you"

The world feeling like its ended and restarted for dream with discovering the fuller multiverse then about his brother sometime after. Everything's been flipped on his head and now it's just him, trying to figure out how to manage being alone for the first time in his life. Not to mention "the only star that guided me was you" is just super sweet, and a wonderful play on their light sun-moon motif that often goes around with the twins.

"I won't look too far ahead It's too much for me to take But break it down to this next breath, this next step This next choice is one that I can make"

Him being horrified to look towards what future possibilities there are for him and living in a world without his brother by his side. Living in a world with a wide universe, tons of more people relying on the golden apple inside his ribcage than just the little villages Dream knew existed. Not to mention said brother now brings torment to worlds of people. Dream taking a large breath and trying to take it all one step at a time since that's the best he can do after awakening from stone. Anything else is all too much and AAA. After seeing what their reality has become because of the villagers and now, Nightmare?

Dream's going to try his best. Going to do the next right thing one step at a time(and Dream doing good because he failed Nightmare is utterly heartbreaking. He can make it better for some, save others from their own dying world, but the causation of it is, in his mind, his biggest failure. You put it perfectly and this song just fits so WELL mjjmakmskmd /pos ).

This song absolutely makes me think of Dream, freshly released from his statue prison and learning of what his brother has become. He hardly has time to grieve the loss, there are so many to take in at once he barely even knows of which to start. Of course for his brother, the very same one who has become unrecognizable, who now seeks to wreak havoc to those innocent. And what else, here he is suddenly older, suddenly surrounded by so much, learning of things he'd never thought possible just yesterday. But there isn't time for that, there are innocent folk whose lives are at stake and he has to help. He must do the next right thing because it is he who couldn't help the one who meant the most to him.

Not me imagining a world now where Nightmare dies over and over and over. If it were to ever occur in an universe, how would it affect Nightmare? How might it affect the balance as a whole?

Would the corruption slowly vanish, eventually revealing Pass!Nightmare beneath it all? Like- give Passive some ability to think a little more and take control if hes still there? Then if thats the case, it brings the question of can Passive's form even survive without the corruption? But then begs the question if Passive is even there at all.

Or maybe Passive is the first soul, the first apple Dream kills when his arrow goes through Nightmare's apple(and what if the remains of Passive was important to NM's entire existence in some way. What if its needed to keep his form together? Do his powers change and he has to relearn them all over(like maybe the way he absorbs negativity and inflicts others with it? Maybe its more slow, laggy, like its a reluctant child. Can he be labeled a guardian in a Check without an part of Passive being there? Where does that leave NM? )

What if with every death Nightmare is now slowly falling apart, struggling more to keep himself together. Every day slogging atop his paths, form constantly getting stuck between the tiles, one hand fused together more similar to the tentacles on his back. In the absent room where his papers are allocated, no one would find him with a mouth(unnecessary to put power into when hes alone, unless there's a lovely drink left next to his books). With every life lost, Nightmare's body is falling apart, becoming more similar to the amalgamations from the lab than an skeleton.

Now how does DREAM react to this? Was the first death accidental? Or purposeful. He wanted to make the universe better, or he was just exhausted. Will he be less careful with his shots knowing NM can die as much as a human? Or will he pull his arrows totry and not kill NM? And saying he goes through with trying to take down NM, goes on the aggressive, and isn't afraid to strike at the soul of his corrupted brother. Would he feel good about seeing Nightmare fall apart or would he cry himself to sleep(he definitely cries himself to sleep)?

You could go even further- what side effects occur within the multiverse? NM would probably get more aggressive, but with ever apple killed, theres technically less negativity. Theres emotions that could be changed so Dream could more easily spread positivity. If NM is weaker with ever apple taken, then it would slowly get easier to fight him(NM's still like a cockroach about dying though). One could say theres a chance the universe could be balanced again, just at the exchange of making his once-brother suffer(I headcannon that making the multiverse perfectly balanced between positivity and negativity is nigh impossible with so many of the positivity apples being gone. I like to think its possible, but fr poor Dream will never get to sleep even if monsters want to be good and lean towards positivity naturally).

And AAAA isn't that such a interesting moral dilemma? Dream dissociating from it. Refusing to call NM by his name, and keeps blaming NM's behavior on the corruption. Imagine he makes a(or another) grave for the memory of his lost brother so he can move on and help make the world a better place. Maybe they'd reach a truce call before NM dies(I don't think NM would let himself get close. The truce is to buy time I'd bet, and Dream knows it too. But its nice to not have to fight everyday, it gives Dream more time to scrub down all his weapons with bleach and longer rests on a couch). Just dealing with it day by day, at some point not counting how many tally marks are beneath the banner on his wall, just marking down another everytime he comes home with blood on his hands(because he'd be a fool to not at least keep track. He can't bring himself to ask Blue or Core to do that, then Ink would just forget).

Then how much of themselves would be lost in the process?! They're already traumatized to the stars and back, this adds another layer to it all. Could this be something they can heal from or might it only end in tragedy if Dream decision falls upon landing a bullseye in an apple for the next decade of his life? This is NOT going to end well for them ever lmao

Dream ate 1 golden apple that became his soul, Nightmare ate 999 black apples, now he has 999 souls

Yes, Nightmare has 999 lives like a spiteful angry lil cat

Me screaming about it on discord vhvjvjuv

PSPPSPS ITS THE SILLIES

Do read the tags but PSPSPSP GO READ THE SILLIES AND PASS NIGHTMARE AND THE GUYS IN ANGST TOWN! THIS IS SO WONDERFUL TO READ AND THE MUSICAL ADDITIONS ARE TOP TEIR!!!

@noitkot1 pspspspsps new chapter alert

CHAPTER FOUR IS OUT!!! Ive been forgetting to post about it here I think but yes!!! Go be free and enjoy the sillies!!!

and by sillies i mean;

It's Just A Lucid Nightmare (7388 words) by I8Chocolatecake Chapters: 4/? Fandom: Undertale (Video Game), Undertale Multiverse - Fandom Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Characters: Nightmare Sans, horror sans, Killer Sans - Character, Dust Sans, Cross sans, Dream Sans, passive nightmare sans Additional Tags: its me, im back, in my Undertale phase, sorry mha readers, CW, for, canon-typical abuse, (Dreamtale), Torture, why are the sanses in the additional tags but not in the character tags where they should be, i think thats all but if i missed something please let me know in the comments !!, unreality, Kidnapping, Psychological Torture, Psychological Horror, dreaming (in a way), Punishment, Fear, Walking on Eggshells, Implied/Referenced Suicide, Mental Breakdown, (s), potentially, Illnesses, Magical Illness, undertale magic headcanons, You Have Been Warned Summary: Something is wrong. Something is wrong. Something is wrong, Something is- Nothing is wrong. Everyone is happy. We are all one big found family, in our nice castle! No one is hurting here. Everyone is happy. No one is dying. No one is sick. No one is leaving. We're happy here. I'm happy.

I have a really stupid hc: nightmare takes better care of his minions than dream/ dreams actually really toxic. Like, yes he's the bad guy, but he takes really good care of his lackeys when they need help mentally and stuff, when dream is so focused on spreading positivity that he doesn't even realize he's hurting the others not caring for them and not letting them do basic things like eat and sleep properly

I’ve seen that headcanon around actually and I think it’s funny /pos

Like I love the idea of Dream being way too focused to realize the damage he causes while Nightmare has a better grasp on things

But also kinda gets into the shaky grounds of “asshole Dream” if not written well

I’m not really a fan of “bad guy” Dream, or the interpretation of Dream being that he’s an asshole who doesn’t care at all

The thing is, I’d love to see that headcanon actually be connected to the twins’ traumas, as I often see people portray them that way and only go for how Nightmare’s is kind and his trauma made him a better leader but Dream is just an asshole, and i’m here like.. WHY????

Like why make Nightmare a better written character just cause you sympathize with him? Why not sympathize with Dream too? Why is Dream’s trauma and the abuse he went through immediately ignored for the sake of making Nightmare kind? Making Nightmare the “better twin”?

Why not make both twins have both good and bad behaviors? Why simply reduce them to black and white?

Like I genuinely would enjoy the idea of Dream being toxic while showing that it’s not his intent, showing that he genuinely doesn’t mean to be toxic, it’s that his toxic behaviors are born out of how his trauma blinded him and how his actions are just the effect of a pre-existing cause, rather than just reducing Dream’s character to a bad guy or an asshole and that’s it y’know?

Like honestly toxic Dream for the win if it shows his vulnerability and how his trauma takes part of it

For me, when it comes to my own interpretation of Nightmare and Dream, I love to think of the opposite but only to an extent?

I like to think Nightmare would be abusive/toxic to his minions, but not to the point they collapse, (unless he was in a really bad mood and he had some sort of emotional outburst) but generally, he doesn’t care about what they do but he makes sure to make it clear that he expects them to eat and sleep and do whatever basics they need to do, as well as give them leisure/ down time for them to do whatever they want as long as they keep up, as he’s extremely practical and would not want to have them unfit for missions or plans he wants to carry (not out of the kindness of his heart but rather cause it would inconvenient him)

All while trying to show that Nightmare has a genuine sense of humanity (for a lack of better word) to him, show that he’s the way he is cause of the trauma he went through, show that he’s not all abusive and show that he has a kind side to him while showing how he squashes that kindness inside him due to trauma

While Dream is actually quite genuinely kind and loves helping people, and is genuinely trying his best to better himself every day, but is quite destructive to himself, he would not accept help from others, and feels the need to save others without saving himself, completely sacrificing his physical and mental health, and assuming he’s the only one who can fix things, a savior complex if you will, he’d work himself down to the bone without relying on his friends or anyone else, (this is a part of how he has his fallout with Ink in my interpretation) he’s too blinded to the fact others can share the weight with him

It’s completely unhealthy to his own self and by extension, he can appear overbearing and someone who gets his nonexistent nose into the business of others without considering their feelings or thoughts about it, and also appear as tho he thinks others are too incompetent to deal with either what he himself deals with, or what others deal with in their own lives, that he’s better than them in a way (it’s not his intent as he genuinely tries his best to be mindful of other’s feelings) but his self destructive behavior is something that Blue is trying to get through his thick skull, but Dream is too stubborn (a characteristic he ironically shares with Nightmare)

So I guess my interpretation of the two is the opposite to what is usually portrayed in the fandom, but I mean, there isn’t many interpretations I agree with in the fandom to begin with Hdhdhxhhd

Dream's HP is constantly fluctuating!!(I know this isn't how HP or HOPE is portrayed in the game if I'm remembering correctly. This idea stems from the idea that Sans has such low HP due to his bad mental health).

This comes from the influence of the Positive Apple inside of Dream's soul! That apple's existence defines Positive things- peoples dreams, their wishes, past and current achievements. The thing every human, monster, and animal feels when they see their loved ones, or spot a crying newborn baby with a button nose. But the feeling isn't consistent for everyone, nor the entire universe. These things the apple exist on directly impact Dream's HP- his HOPE.

His range of HP is influenced by how Dream is currently feeling. Say his average HP when hopeful is 550-650, his range of HP when he's losing hope is from 500-600. It's not stagnant, and has dipped lower than that on heavy, dark days for Dream. But every single fight his HOPE is a different number since the positivity levels and Dream's mental health never stay the same. It's uncommon to not see Dream's HP changing day by day, and often Dream feels conflicted when its stable because that's just not normal. Sometimes, after a series of attacks of AUs which are severely impacted (he failed to protect them), Dream has experienced his HP dipping below 300 as a result.

(Truthfully, Dream doesn't know if he can actually die or not. He isn't going to test it, but on those multitudes of hopeless days of his foot stills right before the golden portal.)

Although due to Dream's childhood trauma, clinging onto his brother's last words, and trying to manage his way in completely new worlds while fighting said brother- his own HOPE has almost never reached its max amount.

I imagine in AUs where multiversal balanced is considered when Dream first breaks free from Stone he's easily below 50 HP. Then until balance is resorted, he'll never reach a "healthy" amount of HP in comparison to the gods, their followers, and the negative au's he's regularly fighting (or his HP as seen in a balanced multiverse). It's not uncommon at all for Dream to be the one with the lowest HP out on the battlefield until Blue comes along.

Then when HOPE is abundant, Dream becomes a literal tank. It's more likely Dream's going to run out of stamina before being taken down. Yes, he takes hits for his allies in these situations! It's often a hopeful spiral up from here. But even with the HP presented prior in a balanced multiverse, Dream's still someone that can take a lot more hits than your average combatants!

I like to give Dream an MP3 player. It's a little yellow one, some scratches, probably the most off-color yellow you'd be able to get. Any solemn minute, locked away in his own little world, Dream turns it on. Music very quickly became his singular way of coping with the entire situation that is his life after getting the device.

Some years back Dream received it as a gift. They had some pre-downloaded songs, but really wanted to say thank you- Dream saved their families lives from Nightmare. They'd outgrown this little thing, perhaps it'd be loved by another. Dream, knowing full well the little spout of smiles they'd feel, accepts the gift. Every new world Dream travels too the thought of getting to add more music makes him pause, spending a little more time in each one to discover artists(not ever going to a live performance, the thought of doing so always leaving Dream a little choked up). Over the years, Dream gets a few more from the few friends he's able to create, never getting himself another device. There's not many, maybe a max of 3 mp3 players before an method to significantly increase the amount of storage space is created(once Dream finds that he doesn't think before buying it. Soon enough, its connected to the little off-yellow player).

Definitely he to listens to every type of music, finding something interesting in every genre, but indie rock just happens to be the most he has saved(if you asked Dream what his favorite genre was, he wouldn't be able to answer). He uses the other mp3 players to save entire albums he enjoys, then deciding what song to listen to in his down time became stressful and the shuffle button on his mp3 has started turning gray much to his dismay. Some songs hit too close to home, and for many years he quietly saved those onto the player. No, it'll never be seen or known by another person. Unless Dream let you know him, you'd never know he listens to music as much as he does.

Overtime, I think, Blue would eventually get a sticker on one of them. Dream isn't entirely sure how he feels about it, but the sticker is glowing like a bright star. It certainly isn't being taken off anytime soon

Tumblr support finally got back to me and said they fixed my tag problem, so I’m reposting this!

they can finally rest, he's keeping them safe :)

c!Tommy and his black and white views.

 /rp

I was pacing and thinking about Techno's speech and about Thesues, and how he said “So you want to be a hero Tommy?” He said want. And that sparked my interest. Which then redeemed this rant on Tommy’s character. ( I’m new to this please be nice to me. This was just a ramble I did on a discord in a #lore channel. This includes a few of the concepts we’ve came together with on the discord and that have been developed, Dream’s character being a big reason. )

He's the only character on the SMP with black and white views. Everyone else has some form of gray in their choices, can acknowledge they messed up from people around them. The only people I see relating to Tommy's views closely are Schaltt and Dream. Schaltt never admitted he was good, never admitted he was bad either. But he desired power. And everyone left him. Everyone hated him. He was left alone and in his final moments acknowledged he was in the bad. Saw that he was the bad guy to everyone.

Dream once held a large part of Tommy's views. Dream wanted to be the hero. He wants a era of peace, he wants a Dystopia. A group of people aligned under laws intended to create peace, but in the end will cause chaos. Maybe not terribly bad laws, but enough to hold peace as he cares for those within his kingdom. He cares for justice and will enforce the laws, no matter what it takes. He wants a land of peace. A land where friends can all be "one big happy family." Dream realized that promoting peace, promoting pacifist ideals wouldn't achieve those desires. First he offered peace to L'manburg, and when they denied to raise the white flags? Second, he attacked. He was enforcing the law and believing he was enforcing peace within his nation, when all he was brewing was war. He saw himself as the good guy. The leader trying to create peace for his nation. Then this desire became impossible with Tommy. Dream always took brash actions to get what he desired, - take banning Tommy on his first day due to the chaos he brought to the server, or exploding L’manburg, - he takes the steps he needs to enforce the peace, believing he's the hero all along the way. Tommy existing has created chaos. Ruined peace. L'manburg disrupted his peace. Wilbur was apart of this chaos, and Dream got rid of him. Dream is willing to become the bad guy to protect his nation and help bring it to peace, even if that means he needs to become the villain in everyone's eyes. ( Or he got corrupted by chaos and power. ) "You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain." He tried to be the hero, - possibly still tries to be the hero, - and became the bad guy. ( This was heavily iffy. Learning new things about Dream's character after writing some more. )

Tommy tries to be the hero.

Tommy has his black and white views. No matter what - Tommy is always in the right. ( When we are reading a story, there's our protagonist and antagonist. Usually our protagonist, - Tommy, - is in the morally right. ) Spite him stealing and griefing others houses, blowing them up and teasing others. Being blatantly rude, even towards his friends at times. Doesn't listen to orders and goes against them, is brash and quickly jumps to fighting. ( How much of this is morally good? ) Tommy's always in the right. He's the hero in his own story no matter how bad he is. He'll never admit he's in the wrong. He can't admit the such. Look at what happened to Wilbur? What if I became the same? Went insane and died? I promised to not be Wilbur- I refuse to be Wilbur. 

Tommy tried to be the hero, and did good things! ( Theseus tried to be the hero, and did good slaying the Minotaur. ) Tommy had to be good. No matter what. He'll never see himself as the villain, he’ll never be a bad guy, never be the villain. No one else believes there is a hero. No one else has the purely black and white views. Only Tommy does. Tommy is the hero. He's the only option - the only person who can truly fit being the hero. He's the only one who truly believes there's a hero.

"So you want to be the hero Tommy? Then die like one!"