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I feel such deep love and hatred towards Hannibal as a show.

I love it for all that it is; as it in tails all that i love. All the psychological aspects, the duality, the gruesomeness, the love, the art, the brutality, the beauty, the religious aspects. All that you can read between the lines of dialogue, filled with metaphors and ethical dilemas. Everything has a meaning.

I hate it for all the same reasons. It's too perfect, too endearing, too addictive; it will always make me wish for more, another season, another scene.

I think about its beauty daily. I wake up happy to have ever been able to lay my eyes upon such masterpiece, and fall asleep sad that i'll never be able to experience it for the first time again. And the fact that it, as a show, was supposed to be much longer, makes me feel hollow.

This show has made me feel such a range of emotions, only for it to strip me away from them.

It shows a love so raw that you can feel its heart beating in your hand. It is about our great desire to be understood. We all want to be understood, loved for all our darkest parts. Just like they love each other

And there won't ever be anything alike, no media could strive to be as good. The only way i have found solace in this, is through fanfics, works made with the same love shared between the characters. Only the fans can truly appreciate its glory, and with it, they can replicate it.

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And that is exactly what that show wants you to feel, cause that is what Will and Hannibal feel for each other. They can't survive separation, they will always be in constant need of each other.

I am sorry for being too poetic, i will forever miss them, and they will always live in my mind. I could talk about them for hours if anyone would care to listen.

kiss alts and cast commentary my beloved

Meta: The Beauty of Hannibal's Season Finales

The Hannibal finales hit different, and it's because they know exactly how to mess with your head. Each season builds to this perfectly agonizing conclusion where you're left with no real answers but a ton of emotions.

Season 1 ends with Hannibal pulling all the strings, framing Will for crimes he didn’t commit. It’s that oh no moment where you realize everything we thought we knew is flipped upside down. Will, in a sense, is now trapped in Hannibal’s web and you just can't look away​.

Then Season 2? It's pure chaos. Will’s on the edge, bleeding out, and Hannibal? He just slips away into the darkness, leaving us hanging with a literal cliffhanger. It’s not just the plot—it's the raw emotion between them that pulls you in, like two people constantly hurting each other and almost, almost enjoying it.

And then comes Season 3... honestly, do we even have words? The way it ends, with Will and Hannibal falling together off a cliff, literally and metaphorically, is both tragic and kind of beautiful. Their relationship is toxic, but it’s like they chose that end. It’s like a twisted love story where they both know they’re doomed, but together, at least they don’t have to face it alone​

So yeah, every finale is about the fall. There’s no escaping the mess they've created, and it's exactly why we love it. There's no redemption arc—just an endless, beautiful spiral into darkness.

Rewatched the pilot; time to rant about foreshadowing

Will wrote a standard monograph on Time of Death by Insect Activity, right? Well, Hannibal likes to use victims body parts to feed snails (i know they are not insects but stay with me rn), enhancing both of their tastes in the process.

Hannibal wrote a paper about the Evolutionary Origins of Social Exclusion, right? Again, Will is a very lonely and isolated person, mainly as a survival mechanism.

What i'm trying to say is: They both wrote about each other without knowing.

They are star crossed lovers, destined soulmates. Even in a world without the other they would search for things alike them.

I believe Abigail was a representation of a the possibility of a "normal" life for Will and Hannibal, together.

Like, i agree with some people in the thought that they had more of a connection with what she represented, than who she was. The thought of them being together.

Don't get me wrong i do feel like they had a connection with her (Hannibal cause she reminds him of Misha, and Will cause she brings his paternal side). But she was nothing more than a gift, in Hannibal's eyes. Something to give to Will, if he followed him to this life, or to take away if he felt betrayed.

So her death is even more meaningful if you think that it's basically Hannibal saying "If you can't have this life with me, then you can't have this life with anyone else". She dies, and their normal life dies with, like the stag did.

Will tried to keep her alive, cause he wanted that life. But he had been too late to that realization, the realization that he picked Hannibal. And Hannibal took that as him picking Jack

Will hallucinating Abigail was more of him trying to understand why he wanted to go after a man that had done so much harm to him, and to others. He found it hard to accept the fact he wanted to be/ become a terrible man.

Also,, I don't think she would survive a family life with them, she would die in Will's or maybe in Hannibal's hands (possibly as a show how devoted they are to each other, willing to kill).

Because no person can survive their relationship if not themselves.

So yeah, in all probabilities, Abigail (Father's joy), was destined to die in her father's arms, it was just a matter of which one.

My bad guys almost missed a day… I drew Willoughby… He was very hard to draw but the photo was so pretty (it was a photo of Hugh but let’s just pretend it’s Will). Also Hannibal doing that deer lick thing to him at the bottom… (I referenced this silly deer image) Happy late birthday to me… (I’m 20 now uh oh)

OMG OMG OMG OMG

Meow (Will is next)

Okaaaay time to explore the parallels between Francis Dolarhyde/Reba McClane and Hannibal/Will! ⬇️

In TWOTL, we see Will & Reba talk about what happened with Francis Dolarhyde.

"W: In the end, he couldn't kill you, and couldn't watch you die.

R: I drew a freak.

W: You didn't draw a freak. You drew a man, with a freak on his back. There is nothing wrong with you.

R: I know there's nothing wrong with me. In making friends I try to be wary of people who foster dependency and feed on it. I've been with a few. The blind attract them.

W: Not just the blind."

See? "In the end, he couldn't kill you, and couldn't watch you die", and that's true about Hannibal & Will.

The dialogue between Reba & Will reflects how Will used to see himself/his relationship with Hannibal. It reminds us that Will used to be wary, too. Better to be alone than in bad company. Before knowing Hannibal, Will was alone most of the time, and ofc you can choose to be alone because you enjoy it, but I don't think the way Will isolated was entirely joyful. He did it to protect himself. Because he knows that the very way he sees the world can attract people who are dangerous to him, can attract people who "foster codependency". He's seen it before, his "uniqueness" makes him vulnerable.

And for a moment, Will genuinely believed Hannibal was a freak. Once he accepted his true nature, accepted to adapt, evolve, become, once he gave in to his real self, he was able to be at peace with who he is ("There's nothing wrong with you") and with who Hannibal is ("You drew a man, with a freak on his back."). He humanizes Francis, in the same way he humanizes Hannibal.

Also, side note, but the "Not just the blind." line could be a way to refer to Will's empathy. He does see, he sees a lot, he sees too much. And that, too, attracts dangerous people.

In a way, Will and Reba are very much alike, because they were both able to see beyond what's visible, to get to know the person they love. Reba's blindness allowed her to see past Francis' physical appearance which he was insecure about, making him feel seen in a way he craved, feel loved for who he was, just like Will's empathy allowed him to see the art in Hannibal's murders, allowed him to sneak a peek behind the person suit and access who Hannibal truly was.

Later, Will & Francis talk:

And this resonates with Hannigram, too. Francis chose to only share a little, "in a way she could survive". Hannigram didn't. They both let themselves be seen, be known. They both changed the other, and got changed by the other, whether they wanted to or not. "I chose not to change her," said Francis, and I'm not sure neither Will nor Hannibal could have chosen not to change each other. They belong to each other so deeply that they actually don't want to trick the monster inside themselves to let the other survive.

"F: I would like to share.

W: You shared with Reba.

F: I shared with Reba a little, in a way she could survive.

W: You didn't change her.

F: I choose not to change her."

They will change each other so thoroughly, that whatever will come out of their mutual transformation, isn't Will & Hannibal, as separate beings, anymore. They are one. They've consumed each other to the point that survival doesn't matter. They embrace their own nature and each other's nature so entirely, that being together surpasses the mere fact of being alive. Being loved is being changed, and they got changed in the most complete way.

I just verified my Ao3 account (haven't even published anything) and i've been hit with a fever

I feel the Ao3 curse has hit me prematurely

Hannigram is not queer bait, Will is

He is the queer at the end of the fishing hook, baiting Hannibal into biting it

HI STAT-

im writing it dw!! i just need to get my ao3 account checked and i'll start posting it :D

Hannigram fic idea: post fall, they don't fight each other over forgiveness, past events, Abigail or uncertainty over their feelings for each other.

They'll have to prove fate that they are going to stick together and never let go, though, even if their hands are bleeding.

OMG I NEED TO WRITE THIS-

hannigram au where you are born knowing your soulmate’s future biggest secret.

will has known his whole life about the "Chesapeake Ripper"-- the serial killer identity of his soulmate. he's had his time to come to terms with it. to accept that he will never be normal; but nor will his soulmate.

and so the first time the name shows up in the papers-- the first time his soulmate's kills appear as glossy exclusives on tattlecrime.com-- will makes goddamn sure that he's the first one assigned to investigate the case.

i keep seeing ppl talk about a fic like this, and i think it's a sign for how my fanfic should go

Hannigram fic idea: post fall, they don't fight each other over forgiveness, past events, Abigail or uncertainty over their feelings for each other.

They'll have to prove fate that they are going to stick together and never let go, though, even if their hands are bleeding.

"Can we move?" Will asked as soon as he entered his and Hannibal's new home.

"We just moved in here. What happened?" Hannibal replied from the kitchen.

"Got caught in small talk with neighbors. They were curious about how a handsome single father like you managed to bring up such a wonderful son."

"I don't have any son." Hannibal said a bit confused. To that, Will sighed.

Hannibal parted his lips as the realization started to sink in.

"No."

"Yes."

"What did you say to that?"

"That you are not my father, obviously. To which they excused themselves and implied that nowadays age gaps between siblings are something usual."

"How vile. Is there a part where they don't call me old or where we are not involved in an incestuous relationship?" Hannibal asked while washing a wine glass.

"I told them you are my partner. And now they are sure we are CEO's or something. I didn't want to say more." Will said as if he was trying to delete the conversation from his brain. "Can we move? Please?"

"You have to learn to be more precise."

"Forgive me, Hannibal, I forgot the gay flag in my car but I promise I will carry it everywhere from now on."

"No, I'm just saying that you are allowed to call me your husband," Hannibal said, "I do refer to you like that."

"I can't see any ring on my finger."

The glass almost slipped into the sink.

"Well, you said we are beyond marriage. You even said that a stupid ring did not stop you from running away from...your previous commitment." He reminded him.

"Then go ahead, tell these religious people we have a gay relationship and that we don't plan to get married. Ever."

"Is living in sin something you are suddenly preoccupied about?" Hannibal teased.

"Is proposing to me something you are terrified of?"

Silence from both.

"Living in sin, Hannibal? Did you really say that?" Will asked, no longer able to keep a serious expression.

"You started talking about religion first," Hannibal replied casually. "And to answer your question, I would rather die than receive another rejection from you."

"You haven't proposed because you believed I would say no." Will reflected. "No, I wouldn't say "no". I said we are beyond marriage because I see us as more than married already. We are committed to each other, aren't we?"

"Will," Hannibal started as the look in his eyes softened, "As soon as these cookies are ready, I am grabbing your hand and we are visiting all the neighbors. And I am introducing you as my husband. I am committed to you eternally with or without a ring."

Will averted his gaze from Hannibal's, a little taken aback by the sincere confession. "We can't even have a proper fight anymore. Disgustingly sweet."

"I could say it all again while holding a knife against your neck."

"I am even more concerned about the fact that I might like that."

(...)

"Hide us from the wrath of the lamb"

"Meat is back on the menu"

"What a cunning boy you are"

"I don't intent Hannibal to be caught a second time"

"You found religion. Nothing more dangerous than that"

Some of my favourite Hannibal quotes in no specific order  

"Eat the rude"

"This is my design"

"It's 07:05 pm. I'm in Baltimore. My name is Will Graham"

"Save yourself, kill them all"

"My compassion for you is inconvenient"

"You and I have begun to blur"

"Peter, is your social worker in that Horse?"

"W: I don't find you that interesting. H: You will"

"I don't want to kill you anymore, Dr. Lecter, not now that I find you finally interesting"

"Meat's back on the menu"

"Someday perhaps, that teacup will come together"

"I transformed my passion for anatomy into the culinary arts"

"I forgive you"

"You might want to crawl back in there, if you know what's good for you"

"Have you seen blood in the full moon. It appears quite black"

"Before we begin, you must all be warned, nothing here is vegetarian"

"Nothing here ... Is vegetarian" (Yes, its twice)

"Did you just smell me?"

"It's beautiful"

"Bonsoir"

"That may have been impulsive"

"It makes us tastier"

"It isn't really smart to piss off a guy who thinks about killing for a living"

"See. This is all I ever wanted for you, Will. For both of us."

"You dropped your forgiveness, Will"

"If I saw you every day forever, Will, I would remember this time."

"Going my way?"

"Hello, I love your work"

"I'm not interested in a pissing contest with you, Doctor Lecter"

"The same unfortunate aftershave"

"Eat your nose then"

"I have to eat him"

"W: You called us murdered husbands. F: You did run off to Europe together"

"I believe that's what people call a mic drop"

"I'm not fortunate fool. I am yours"

"H: Stay with me. W: Where else would I go?"

"I never known myself as well as I know myself when I'm with him"

"I like the smell of urinal cake"

"It's nice to have some friends for dinner"

"I would like to have your wife for dinner"

"When do you deliver your wife to my dinner table?"

it's so funny cause you can see that they never watched the show, cause Hannibal draws self insert art of him and his boyfriend as Patroclus and Aquiles (no gayer thing on earth, but still the least gay thing they did)

Gen Z “Alpha-Bros” on TikTok idolizing Mads Mikkelsen’s Hannibal and wanting to be just like him is so funny to me because

1) That’s a fag

2) Hannibal would immediately put them on his list, though the meat would probably be too rancid to eat

3) Hannibal’s purest desire in this world is to be Will’s house-wife who wears a cute pink little apron with a bow on it and who always has supper on the table for when his husband gets back from fishing

My Shayla…

(apart from the year differences) it would make sense cause both Hannibal and House studied at John's Hopkins medical school and could have known each other.

But i imagine they didn't go to a hospital more like Hannibal called House and House got interested on what happened so he went with Wilson to help them

What if I was insane and said Hannibal x House m.d crossover.

Wilson: They're serial killers House! And not to mention CANNIBALS!?

House: Waste not want not, Wilson

Meanwhile hannigram are vibing as if they're not fresh out of the sea and Will is glaring at anyone and everyone while Hannibal complains about hospital food.

WAIT-

So, i forgot this but apparently Will always takes his glasses off when he is around Hannibal. Which makes sense cause, with him, he is seeing his darkest and truest self.

And he puts them back when Hannibal surrenders to the cops. Cause he wants to be blinded to the things he once saw. Hoping that will mean he could have a normal life, like the one he tried to have with Moly

But sadly, a fulfilling life for Will Graham is not a normal life like the rest of the world. The life he truly desires is one with Hannibal in it, and he gets to a point where he can't hide that behind the glasses anymore.

Allow me to go crazy for a sec-

Will used glasses at the start of the show right? but he doesn't use it at the end, right?

What if he never needed glasses, and they were only a way for him to blur his own vision?

Cause if don't need glasses you will have blurry vision while wearing them. So maybe they could have been a way to say he was hiding his true self. Hiding his own "killer instincts" from himself, as a way to fit in.

He doesn't need them after prison, when he is killing ppl with Hannibal, or ever since. Cause he doesn't need them, he is seeing what his own brain wanted to hide from him. His true self

+When Jack wants Will to work in a case at the start of the show, he takes Will's glasses off. Forcing him to look with the eyes of a killer

"Post-fall Hannibal would kill Chilton" No he wouldn't.

Hannibal wants Chilton alive, surviving more than living, cause that's the lesson Chilton needed to learn.

Chilton always believed he was in charge of people, that he had power over them. When he truly didn't.

He felt like he had power over the fake Chesapeake ripper, and for that he got his organs removed while awake. He thought he had power over Will, and the fact that Hannibal was the real Chesapeake ripper, and that got him framed and shot by Miriam. Lastly, he thought he had power over the Great Red Dragon, and that got him burnt alive.

He has suffered time and time again, every time because he went against Hannibal, and believed he has power over the situation. But he never truly did.

So he would keep him alive, as a cruel reminder that he is powerless, and that he would be dead if Hannibal wanted to.

i love seeing these posts cause majority of them are from teen boys that never watched the show and think Hannibal is just an edgy character (like Homelander style)

and i would LOVE to see these dudes realizing this show is incredibly gay and that Hannibal is just pathetically inlove with Will :))

Might be a little mean but god I am so fed up with that "nothing here is vegetarian" scene ALL over Instagram people thinking it's peak.

Like okay it IS, but where's my "I let you know me, see me"?? Where's "we could disappear now"??? "Isn't that how you found me"????, "think about me"?????

i love to call Hannibal pathetic for this, cause he is such a calculated man, yet he risks everything for Will

He risks his life, his mind, his freedom

And at the end, he fully lets Will throw him off the cliff, cause he was truly vulnerable to him. And it's something that man would have never done before meeting Will.

With that, it's clear that Will changed Hannibal in so many ways, cause he turned him weak to his emotions, he became empathetic

Sometimes I watch the show and try to think of Hannibal’s perspective and it’s a total trip. Like. Imagine you’ve been able to control and pick and choose your emotions and reactions your whole life, due to being somehow psychopath-adjacent. And the only time you couldn’t was when you were little with your baby sister, and it’s probable that as your brain matured, the possibility of feeling and forming connections like that dried up entirely. You read the psychiatric journals, and occasionally there’s something about a man who can connect with others so deeply he can become an echo of them. And then you meet this man, and he mocks your comment about eye contact while holding yours.

An understanding passes between both of you that you have hidden depths. Instead of killing him, you bring him breakfast, and make him dinner, and serve him drinks. Instead of being able to toy with his mind without a care, you think of him and your chest clenches, and your gut swoops, and his face and voice and his rude little barbs invade your mind like glittering parasites that you can’t remove. These feelings are alien, and they’re also yours. You know, deep down, why you’re letting him live, why you stare after him, why you toe the line of risking it all for him. But you don’t want to face it. It’s terrifying, this horizon of who you are and can be that looms before you with no choice of your own.

Framing him presents a convenient opportunity for ridding yourself of this thing he brings on in you, this total lack of control, this fever-dream surrender that breaches the walls of your mind and the tics and tells of your body so effortlessly— but you miss him. You don’t miss anyone, and the one person you do is more of an imago that never was able to grow into her own real person. But the you you’ve helplessly become certainly does. You’ve become an addict. You cannot let him rot when his presence gave your monochrome world color, you can’t quit the drug you’ve always shunned. This is all a devil’s bargain, certainly, but you’ve already damned yourself, and all that’s left to do is plunge further. Oh and by the way. The infuriating man in question looks like this:

Like okay then, good luck not having the crashout of the century 😭

Allow me to go crazy for a sec-

Will used glasses at the start of the show right? but he doesn't use it at the end, right?

What if he never needed glasses, and they were only a way for him to blur his own vision?

Cause if don't need glasses you will have blurry vision while wearing them. So maybe they could have been a way to say he was hiding his true self. Hiding his own "killer instincts" from himself, as a way to fit in.

He doesn't need them after prison, when he is killing ppl with Hannibal, or ever since. Cause he doesn't need them, he is seeing what his own brain wanted to hide from him. His true self

+When Jack wants Will to work in a case at the start of the show, he takes Will's glasses off. Forcing him to look with the eyes of a killer

If she called them gay for going to Italy, man, she is going to have a field day with them running from the cops together (and living in cuba for years)

I imagine, after everything, she was like "Guys i told you they were going to run away together!! They are in love!!"

Just finished Hannibal. It was hella gay. Glad to see Freddie lounds’ ship has sailed. Little bummed she lived because she was annoying but u know what i think she girlbossed her way through like and who am i to stand in her way?

The fact that Jack doesn't talk about the lamb. Cause he is too focused on the fight between him and Hannibal (and the Red Dragon), so he doesn't talk about Will, he doesn't care about Wills perspective or for his well being, for him Will is indeed just a tool, just fine china.

He only cares for Will when he needs to catch something, or someone. Then, he is back on the shelf, not even to be cared for.

But Hannibal reminds him of the Lamb. Cause for Hannibal, Will is extremely important. His becoming is the most important thing in Hannibal's life.

His wrath is not one to be looked over.

And at the end of the day, Will did push himself over the edge. As Jack was way too focused on the "big killers" to not notice him.

God's sacrificial lamb turned to the devil's side.

maybe having Will wake up (after the Verger farm) to Hannibal playing the piano, and realizing why it was tuned..

Also Hannibal lovess the piano and i'm sure he would play something beautiful for Will

I think we as a society need to talk more about the fact that Will owned a piano. We were robbed. We could have had a piano scene.

i also like to thing that when Hannibal told Will "i gave you a child" he also meant "i gave you a family" in the way that Hannibal had also been Will's wife

There's something so awfully sinister about the fact that Hannibal was locked up, and content to be so, and didn't try to stir up anything in his time in prison ... until he found out about Molly and Walter. And then he immediately sent someone to kill them. To get rid of them. To destroy this life Will made for himself that did not include Hannibal.

Molly being Will's wife was unacceptable. In fact, Hannibal quite literally couldn't accept it. Whenever he referred to her he always said "the wife". Not "your wife". The wife. Not only is it impersonal and dismissive, it also sounds an awful lot like "the woman you're married to but doesn't hold your heart" sounds an awful lot like "the woman you're married to that can't satisfy you like I can". True homewrecker behaviour Hannibal

And Walter... Walter was just a kid but Hannibal didn't care. Hannibal isn't above killing children, especially this one who dared to fulfil Will's fantasies of being a father that Hannibal felt he had full control and power over. Abigail was conditional on Will behaving (and got taken from Will for his betrayal). Margot's baby had to be gotten rid of because Hannibal hadn't given it to him. Hannibal hadn't given Walter to Will either. He had to be dealt with, just like Margot's baby.

Hannibal is genuinely so awful when he's jealous. We don't see it often - it's usually Will's jealousy that we see (with Alana, Bedelia, Randall etc.) but when Hannibal gets jealous it's terrifying.

Things I think happened during season two's therapy sessions/date nights we didn't get to see:

- Fucking, tbh.

- Sleepovers. We see scenes where they are drinking wine and it's raining and dark out, maybe some nights it was too late or the rain or snow was bad so H told Will to stay. He probably left early, maybe even before H woke up, but it could've happened okay??

- H telling Will about Mischa and his parents. We know Will knows more about Mischa because Chiyoh asks him something and he answers like he knows the story, so H told him and the "I let you know me, see me" was waaay too raw so yeah, 100% he opened his heart out to Will about the whole thing. I think Will also told H about his childhood.

- Casual talks about random shit. I bet Will changed the aftershave, or not but I bet they revived that conversation. Or about food preparation, preferences, too, I just know H wanted to know Will's favorite everythings.

- Little touches. Come on, H tucking a lose curl in those fireplace, wine nights? It happened. Will delicately touching H's lower back as he passed by a smaller space.

youngish hannigram

sometimes i feel like all we need to do to get a hannibal season 4 is just to bother streaming services

like let's comment on Netflix or on Prime's instagram/ twitter account. It's normal behavior for fans

cause all Bryan Fuller need is funding, so let's annoy streaming services until they fund him :)