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This remains one of my favorite little scenes from the entire movie.

How was your day at the track?

NEWSIES (1992) dir. kenny ortega

Um, ok. I'm on an email chain for work and cc'd is David Moscow. Yes THAT DAVID MOSCOW. I'm seizing the day. I'm carrying the banner. I'm hyperventilating.

I know Patrick's Mother was removed from livesies largely because her character is non-consequential to the story and we never see her again after this small scene, but to me, this was a missed opportunity. One, it's got a killer belt, but even more importantly, it's part of the world building. The fact that we never see her again is so powerful. It mirrors how she will most likely never see her own son again. A glimpse of the harsh reality of the time.

I also love where it happens in Carrying the Banner. First we see the newsies running around like they're having the time of their life, "wes as free as fishes", we look out for ourselves and each other and ain't that the best? But then we have this sobering moment where we can start to understand why these kids had to become newsies in the first place.

dillon klena always at the scene of the crime im crying

New goal: Write my own version of What Will Become of the Boy based on Rooftop just to give this world SOMETHING TO BELIEVE IN

do you ever wonder if any of Rooftop is borrowed from Sarah's cut solo "What Will Become of the Boy?" since the song also includes parts of Santa Fe? ...or are you normal?

surprise jack/semi javid angst <3 idk if anybody’s done this already but this song is SOOOO him

NEWSIES FROM 2005!!!!

featuring:

biblically accurate pipsqueak Spot Conlon (played by a girl!)

literally gut wrenching Crutchy (and later Sarah) getting beat up scenes wtf :(

Denton's hat is a boater hat and it flies off at the end of King of New York

historical Kid Blink's speech at the rally!!

heart breaking little Sarah and Medda moment :(

Jack sitting in Pulitzer's chair like the little shit he is

unfortunately no Pulitzer threatening David to get to Jack or alley scene because the tape just had to run out at that part, didn't it?

after Jack comes and beats up the Delancey's, he helps Sarah up but then David is just dying in the corner for a bit until Sarah notices him and they both go help him and it made me crack up for some reason my poor baby boy

newsies distributing papers to the audience during Once and For All

"Yeah if that's what you want" cue Santa Fe music and Jack has a walk of shame

a really cute Jarah moment where Jack spins Sarah around and then they run off

BUT! The highlight of this whole thing was Pulitzer, his actor really committed to the bit and kinda gave me Don Knotts if he'd gotten his way and was cast in Newsies as Pulitzer vibes...

The following is the newspaper article which inspired Bob Tzudiker and Noni White to write "Hard Promises" which would go on to became Newsies (1992).

Street Scenes

CHILDREN OF THE CITY At Work and at Play. By David Nasaw. Illustrated. 244 pp. New York: Anchor Press/Doubleday & Company. $18.95.

By Avery Corman

BEFORE the emergence of the modern middle class in America, before video games, before MIRV's, before high school students studied long hours to get into the first college of their choice, before the creation of after-school sports programs that for a fee escort city teen-agers who lack local facilities to ball fields and gyms, a unique and vivid street life for youngsters throbbed in our cities. This earnest volume describes the work and play of children of the working class in the first two decades of this century in a number of cities, including New York, Chicago and Philadelphia.

David Nasaw, a historian who teaches at the College of Staten Island of the City University of New York, has assembled ''Children of the City'' from archives, early reports by journalists and settlement house workers, oral history collections and published reminiscences. He sees urban street life as having been a struggle between reformers and youths, parents and children, police and rowdies, and, in the newsboy era, capital and labor.

Nostalgia is his priority as an author. Few are hurt by the conflicts. Poverty is manageable. The cities, despite overcrowding in working-class districts and a desperate craving for assimilation, are essentially benign places. This oversimplification is a result, no doubt, of Mr. Nasaw's unbridled affection for the period. His romanticizing of events is the price of admission for a glimpse into a way of being young that has vanished.

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The distinction at the time between proper activities for boys and girls is intriguing by modern standards, and he describes it effectively. While boys hawked newspapers, peddled fruit, went looking for junk to sell and moved freely through the city, working-class girls were likely to be at home. ''Though many would, before marriage or between marriage and motherhood, work for wages in factories, offices, or retail stores, these were considered but temporary detours on the road to motherhood and housekeeping. There was little the girls could learn on the streets that would prepare them to be mothers and wives,'' Mr. Nasaw writes.

A common expression of the day was ''little mothers,'' to describe the widespread use of teen-age girls as surrogate parents for younger children in the family. Homebound, girls also attended to boarders, kept house and aided in piecework, usually without pay, while boys were on the streets, earning money in more glamorous pursuits.

The newsboy era is a fascinating footnote to the history of our cities, and Mr. Nasaw is at his best with this material. He describes how afternoon and evening editions of newspapers began to outnumber morning editions and required people to sell them. Youngsters could handle the work and for a time were the major distributors for the afternoon dailies. ''The newsies were no exotic breed of city child,'' Mr. Nasaw writes. ''The historical record suggests that selling papers on the streets was a common children's occupation. Hundreds of thousands of boys who grew up in American cities . . . sold papers.''

In 1899 an event took place that would have been perfect for film use by the Dead End Kids, but as Mr. Nasaw points out, it has been a neglected episode. Unhappy with a raise in the wholesale price of Joseph Pulitzer's World and William Randolph Hearst's Journal, New York newsboys, copying the methods of grown-ups' unions, organized a successful strike against these titans of journalism, with devastating effects on the newspapers' circulations. ''The publishers conceded defeat in the second week of the strike,'' Mr. Nasaw writes, ''by offering the boys an advantageous compromise.''

IN some respects, youngsters' street life in the city has been unchanged through this century - young people have played stickball and basketball and jumped rope through several generations. But ''by the 1920s the children of the streets had been pushed to the side by the automobile, which cut off their play and work space, by tougher and better-enforced child labor laws, and by adults who moved into the trades they once monopolized,'' Mr. Nasaw says.

Today's young people are out on the streets with cassette players and stereos. If they listen to the hits on Top 40 radio stations, they probably cannot identify pop stars of only a few years ago, so quickly do trends evaporate in our culture. The material covered by this book is largely forgotten, but, fortunately, David Nasaw has unearthed these colorful pieces from the remnants of our urban landscape.

The New York Times. April 28, 1985, Section 7, Page 15.

And we know Jack Kelly would have tacked this flyer up behind his bunk.

Advertisement for Buffalo Bill's Wild West and Congress of Rough Riders in the New York Sun, Wednesday, March 29, 1899

embarrassment has good bones

In 1992, Disney released a new movie musical featuring songs by Alan Menken and an unconventional hero who steals food, runs from the law, and lies about his identity.

Oh, wait.

Or did they release two?

Here is my incomplete list of similarities and connections between Newsies (released 10 April 1992) and Aladdin (released 11 November 1992)

1- Alan Menken and Howard Ashman. Lyricist Howard Ashman is responsible for pitching the idea for Aladdin to Disney and initially it was him and Alan Menken who wrote the songs for the animated film. The same duo was supposed to write the songs for Newsies, however Ashman was unable to work with Menken on Newsies due to his illness from AIDS and Jack Feldman was brought in to write the lyrics for Newsies instead. Ashman died in 1991 the day before songwriting for Newsies officially began[x].

2- Street Rats. As mentioned in my introduction, Jack Kelly and Aladdin find themselves in very similar circumstances. The similarity between the two characters isn't hard to spot.

3- Rooftop Trust Exercise? In both the Newsies 1991 film script and Newsies: a novel, there is a scene on the rooftop where Jack, David, and Les are being chased by Snyder and Jack leads the Jacobs brothers between rooftops across a plank. In the novel, David looks down when he's halfway across and Jack calls out to him and holds out a hand to calm David and get him across.

Unfortunately, the scene was cut and isn't in the final film. However, a similar concept seems to have made its way into Aladdin instead. The one scene from Newsies is split into two and the plank part isn't in the middle of a chase (also, Jasmine takes the situation much better than David did), but the similarity is no less interesting. I think it's also significant to note that the Newsies scene is not found in Hard Promises and was in fact a Disney rewrite.

Top: Newsies 1991 film script and Newsies: a novel excerpts. Bottom: Aladdin (1992) screencaps.

4- Importance of Identity. Once again there is a similarity between the two main characters. Francis Sullivan becomes Jack Kelly, and Aladdin becomes Prince Ali. I think it could be argued that in both cases the facade or new identity is used as a form of escapism so that the hero can at least try to obtain the thing he wants. Francis Sullivan has a father in jail and a dead mother (and brother), but Jack Kelly has a family waiting for him out west. Aladdin is a thief with no honest money to his name, but Prince Ali can afford luxury and win the heart of a princess.

5- Proud of Your Boy. The song, "Proud of Your Boy" was originally written in 1988 by Alan Menken and Howard Ashman for Aladdin, however it was cut when Aladdin went through rewrites that cut Aladdin's mother from the story. Later on, the song would be reincorporated into the stage musical version of Aladdin, but before then it would gain an odd connection to Newsies.

There have been rumors that "Proud of Your Boy" might have been intended to be used for David in Newsies, and while it's not impossible I have found no evidence that the song was ever officially associated with Newsies beyond the fact that Howard Ashman was supposed to have written the lyrics for Newsies as stated in my first point. However, regardless of whatever Disney intended to do with the song, an "illegal" stage adaptation of Newsies cropped up written by Philip L McBride that gave the song to David anyways. I have a post that explains this further which you can find here.

Left: "Newsies Libretto," page 57. Right: Aladdin Jr. script, page 18.

6- Stage Adaptations. Curiously, just as the original films were both released in 1992, Newsies and Aladdin both took to the stage for the first time in 2011. Newsies at Paper Mill Playhouse, and Aladdin at the 5th Avenue Theatre in Seattle.

Honorable mentions:

The Aladdin (2019) chase scene has been described as being more similar to the chase scene in Newsies (1992) than to the original in Aladdin (1992). [x]

This last note is more of a fun fact, but Pierre Marais who played Jack Kelly in the Theatre Under The Stars production of Newsies last year was also in Aladdin.

Left: Pierre Marais as Aladdin in Broadway's Aladdin on tour, and Right: Pierre Marais as Jack Kelly at the Theatre Under The Stars.

I think it's interesting that, although these two stories seem to be intertwined, Newsies initially flopped whereas Aladdin was met with wide success and became the highest-grossing film of 1992.

@skinnycaats alright, here are the results of my investigation: The Newsies Libretto is not an official 92sies libretto/script, but it is no less intriguing.

I'll start with why it's not official.

"Newsies Libretto," pages 1-3.

There are several details on the first three pages of the libretto that drew my attention. First, the cover page which says "NOT FOR SALE PROPERTY OF Pikakee Music." There's also an address for New York and an email for a Philip L McBride. The same name is found on the second page where Philip McBride is credited for "Stage Adaptation and Score." Finally, there's a copyright and copyright warning with a "Music and Lyrics Copyright" dated 1992.

Compare this to the cover of a confirmed 1991 Newsies film script:

1991 Newsies film script, page 1.

My thoughts were essentially:

Why is this libretto "property of Pikakee Music" when Newsies (1992) is the "property of Walt Disney Pictures" as stated in the lower right corner of the 1991 script?

What is "Pikatee Music" and who is Philip McBride?

Why is there a copyright for 1992 when all scripts would have been from 1991? (As evidenced by the list of revisions in the upper right corner of the 1991 script and by the fact that all filming for Newsies was completed in 1991.)

The most interesting thing, however, was the fact that this libretto by Philip McBride was a "Stage Adaptation." Upon looking further into the pdf, it became clear that this was in fact for a stage, not the silver screen.

"Newsies Libretto," page 7.

"Newsies Libretto," page 66.

The libretto is split into two acts and gives stage directions, but is very clearly based on the 1992 film. This isn't the official film, nor is it the 2011 musical, so where on earth did this come from?

Well, I looked up 'Philip L McBride' and 'Pikatee Music' and I found where on earth it came from. It came from... this guy?

"About Me!" philiplmcbride.com.

According to his website, he is an actor and musician and Pikatee Music is his music publishing company. On his website he also provides his resume, which does not include writing Newsies scripts in his spare time. I personally would be boasting about it but you do you.

Though, there is one little thing about Mr. McBride's script that just might be damning, and it's the fact that he has included "Proud of Your Boy" that we know today from Broadway's Aladdin. (Which is actually wonderfully placed by the way!)

"Newsies Libretto," page 57.

For some context, "Proud of Your Boy" was written back in the 90s by Howard Ashman for the original 1992 Aladdin, however it was cut. Howard Ashman was also supposed to do the lyrics for Newsies (1992) before he passed away and Jack Feldman took on the job instead. The song was reincorporated into Aladdin when the story was adapted into a stage musical in 2010 and eventually made it to Broadway in 2014.

For two decades the song lay abandoned, orphaned if you will.

But this guy (Philip McBride) decided to adopt "Proud of Your Boy" and put it into Newsies.

So here's my theory: this unofficial Newsies Libretto by Pikatee Music was written sometime between 1992 and 2010, before "Proud of Your Boy" was returned to Aladdin and before Newsies was officially turned into a stage musical in 2011.

It is my theory that this libretto was one of the "illegal" Newsies scripts for the stage that filled the void until Disney produced their official, licensable show.

"Newsies - An Oral History: How it All Happened"

Basically, this literal, random guy is my hero and it's a shame that Disney passed him up for Harvey Fierstein.

me and my moots <3

Hand it over, Disney! And throw in the director's cut while you're at it!

... please :)

someone get Kenny on the phone I want answers

Christian Bale as Theodore "Laurie" Laurence in

Little Women (1994) dir Gillian Armstrong

When Morning Brew Daily makes a newsies reference...

"But, unlike the Newsies, Trump may have been too quick to call himself 'King of New York'."

writing historical fic set in real places is so scary. what if someone who knows more about Philadelphia's timeline to move from gas to electric streetlamps reads my fanfiction and laughs at me

Never a post so profound.

Newsies Fic Gothic

Newsies Fic Gothic

Time has no meaning. It’s 2016. It’s 1899. It’s 1899 but electricity and cars haven’t been invented yet. The past is the past. The future is the future. There are time traveling girls. Jack spends too much time playing Angry Birds on David’s phone in the lodging house.

Everybody is gay. David is gay. Jack is gay. Pulitzer is gay. Sarah is gay. Katherine it’s gay, The pigeons who were frightened by the trash fire are gay pigeons. Patrick’s mother is a raging lesbian who loves her gay son.

Nobody is gay, and everybody has long lost sisters. Race’s sister is dating Jack. Jack’s sister is dating Skittery. All of the sisters are very estranged. The Delanceys terrorize those that they do not date. The sisters tuck their hair into their newsies caps. Nobody must discover that they are girls.

Racetrack and Spot Conlon stood next to each other in one version of the story. Because of this, they are dating. They show their love by cursing a lot and being very cool. Shortness attracts shortness. It is law.

Spot Conlon is everywhere. He’s in Brooklyn. He’s in Manhattan. He’s in Manhattan. He’s on Mars. Spot Conlon is walking on the sun. Spot Conlon is the little voice inside your heart telling you to believe in yourself and be a good person. Spot a Conlon thinks you should start by eating more Doritos and learning to be a badass. Never fear. Brooklyns here.

The spelling of Crutchie’s name changes every time you read it. Crutchy in love with Jack. Cruhqi is in love with David. Crutchee is sad about the refuge. Krutchee is too good for this cruel world. Crunchy is one person and many. Kerutch-E is everybody’s favorite character.

Jack Kelly is not in love with Sarah Jacobs. They are only friends. They got into a fight and broke up. Sarah is evil. Jack is too gay to date girls. Sarah helps him date her brother. Sarah cackles and devolves into dust. Who is this Sarah you speak of? There is no Sarah, only Katherine. The kiss never happened.

Manhattan is at war with Queens. Again. Will the war ever end? Will our boys ever come home?

There are not enough beds in the lodging house. There are never enough beds in the lodging house. David would like to sleep in the lodging house. He must use Jack’s bed. There are no other options for David. There are no other beds for David.

There are background characters with no lines. They are your responsibility now. Use your power wisely. We forge our own protagonists in blood, sweat, and tears.

Is Jack a cowboy or an artist? His form shifts before your eyes. Is it David or Davey? Are they one in the same? Can they exist in the same universe, or is that a power granted solely to Katherine and Sarah?

Jack and Katherine have a ship. What is their ship called? Is it Kack Plelly? Jatherine Kummer? Goatcuticles? Nobody knows. Nobody can agree. The old ones say there was unity once. Heedless of this conflict, the ship sails on. At least for some.

Davey will never go back to school. Davey will be doomed to repeat his first day back at school over and over in an endless loop. Davey knows the square root of pi. Davey has some facts he’d like to share with you. Davey is unsure what a newspaper is because he is a soft and sheltered student type.

There is no you’re, and there is no your, and there is no yours. There is only “you’s, and if you’s ain’t happy wit dat you’s better hav you’d lawyer call me’s lawyer, and maybe we’ scan woirk somethin’ out. Or maybe you’s face would loike to meet me’s fist if you’s knows what I’s means.

AU, AU is the name of the game. Jack is a gymnast. No wait, he’s a star fleet officer. And now they are at Hogwarts. Keruhchiiiiii has a dragon. David is a very anxious lamp. Mafia.

There is a fic, old and legendary, revered by all. It is about summer camp. Sometimes people forget. Sometimes new people arrive with no knowledge of fandom paths once trod. The story is a beacon in the dark. It’s never forgotten for long.

Only real ones get it.

🦉

My partner critiques my fics in memes, I felt this on a very personal level.

I mean, yeah. Absolutely.

Modern Newsies Characters' Favorite Movies

Jack: Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron

David: Dead Poets Society

Les: Quest for Camelot

Sarah: Pride and Prejudice

Spot: The Godfather

Racetrack: Fight Club

Crutchy: Jaws

Boots: The Princess Bride

Kid Blink: Treasure Planet

Mush: Mamma Mia and Mama Mia: Here We Go Again

Bumlets: Dirty Dancing

Skittery: The Outsiders

Snoddy: Stardust

Specs: The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King

Dutchy: Star Wars: A New Hope

Snitch: Howl's Moving Castle

Itey: How to Train Your Dragon

Swifty: Practical Magic

Pie-Eater: Forrest Gump

Jake: Rocky IV

Snipshooter: He says it's Die Hard but it's actually Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet

Flipper: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

Tumbler: The Sandlot

I think about this so often. And what if… Christian Bale played Pulitzer?! I know he’s famously downplayed his involvement in Newsies but he would give a hell of a performance as Joe. It could be a sort of reconciliation. And it would be 92 Pulitzer, with no musical numbers or dancing, which might make it easier to convince him…

not that Newsies (1992) ever needs to be remade because it is a timeless masterpiece, but theoretically, if it was, I have two conditions:

Kenny Ortega has to be involved somehow because I only trust him, Bob, and Noni with Newsies

our man Denton must, and I mean absolutely MUST be played by David Moscow. This is non-negotiable. I am deadly serious.

Look at them.

It would be so full circle...

pulitzer didn't scare francis sullivan, for he had nothing to lose, but jack kelly had finally found something, and now he had everything to lose.

Hey Newsies Fandom, LETS TALK LODGING HOUSES (by someone who wrote a 13 page essay on them for a university class)

I’ve recently delved into the world of Newsies Fanfiction and I’ve been going a little crazy over some of the representation of the Lodging House so I thought I’d offer up some FACTS regarding some things I’ve seen. For this I’m going to focus on the N°9 Duane Street Lodging-House.

(If you want a basic idea without doing too much research or reading this post, just go watch the 1992 Newsies, it’s not perfectly accurate but it’s close enough.)

THE LAYOUT: the lodging house itself was 6-7 floors. The first floor was rented out to shops like some apartment buildings.

Floor 2: The second floor consisted of a large dining-room “where nearly two hundred boys can sit down at table” (Campbell et al, 1897, 122), as well as a kitchen, laundry room, store-room, servant’s room and living quarters for the lodging’s superintendent and their family.

Floor 3: The third floor contained the school-room as well as washrooms, leaving the two top floors for the dormitories.

Floor 4-5: Each dormitory was “furnished with from fifty to one hundred beds” (Campbell et al, 1897) with spring mattresses and plenty of comforters. There were also “private rooms” which were squared spaces quartered off by curtains for privacy. These beds, though more expensive, were almost ALWAYS filled.

A couple different sources mention the lodging house having a gymnasium (with a trapeze) but they can’t seem to agree exactly where the gymnasium was. My guess is it was on the 6th floor as mentioned in an article by The Journal. The attic was used as extra space for the winters when the dormitories were full.

COSTS: lodging was 6 CENTS (or 10 for a “private room”) and meals (breakfast and dinner) were the same price. Boys could have as many helpings of a mean as they wanted! Without paying extra! From what I could tell they didn’t serve lunch because the afternoon paper came out around noon and most boys just picked up something while they were out so they wouldn’t miss a prime selling time.

(Don’t forget that most papers cost 1¢ for customers so a newsie would only have to sell 6 papers to stay the night or get a meal)

AMENITIES: THEY. HAD. SHOWERS. They had access to both hot and cold water and free towels. Boys were expected to wash up after entering the lodging house. Also, as mentioned, there was a laundry room. From my understanding it was most often used to clean the sheets of the beds which were used every day, but there were also boys said to be around helping with chores, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they were also able to wash their clothes there when they wanted.

There was also a free clothes ‘closet’ with donated clothing for boys to access. It seemed most boys chose not to make use of it out of pride, but it didn’t go UNUSED. When a kid really needed stuff they would give it to them.

SCHOOLING: boys staying at the lodging house who did not receive a pass to stay out late were expected to attend the night school held there from 7:30-9. During the day the lodging house also held trades classes and other such courses for those who couldn’t attend a full day of school for whatever reason.

There’s so much more but that’s the basics of it and some of the stuff I’ve seen people get wrong (both in fanfics AND here on Tumblr) I’ve added photos from the Lodging house as well as some links of interest for those who want to go do their own research.

Campbell, H., Knox, T. W., & Byrnes, T. (1897). NEW YORK NEWSBOYS-- WHO THEY ARE, WHERE THEY COME FROM, AND HOW THEY LIVE-- THE WAIFS AND STRAYS OF A GREAT CITY. In Darkness and Daylight; or Lights and Shadows of New York Life; A Pictoral Record of Personal Experiences by Day and Night in the Great Metropolis (pp. 111–138). essay, Hartford, Conn. The Hartford Publishing Company. Retrieved November 23, 2024, from https://archive.org/details/darknessdaylight00campuoft/page/137/mode/1up.

Internet Archive

Darkness and daylight; or, Lights and shadows of New York life; a pictorial record of personal experiences by day and night in the great met

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^ Chapter IV: NEW YORK NEWSBOYS— WHO THEY ARE, WHERE THEY COME FROM, AND HOW THEY LIVE— THEY WAIFS AND STRAYS OF A GREAT CITY.

Riis, J. A. (1890). How The Other Half Lives. Charles Scribner’s Sons. November 23, 2024, https://www.gutenberg.org/files/45502/45502-h/45502-h.htm#Page_82

^Chapter XVII: The Street Arab

Riis, J. A. (1908). The Children of the Poor. Charles Scribner’s Sons. November 23, 2024, https://www.gutenberg.org/files/32609/32609-h/32609-h.htm#Page_122

^Chapter XIV: The Outcast and the Homeless

Smallest saving bank in the world. (1896, February 16). The Journal, pp. 19–19. Retrieved November 23, 2024, from https://www.loc.gov/resource/sn84031792/1896-02-16/ed-1/?q=Great+Depression&sp=19&st=image&r=-0.421,0.085,1.842,1.398,0.

New favorite thing: Jack being loud and cocky around the other boys, but quiet around Sarah.  Because all of a sudden, he’s not the focus–she is.  And he doesn’t mind.

Was anyone else aware that Specs, Snitch, and a background newsie were in a BOY BAND called DX3?! There is like, NO evidence of this anywhere on the internet, but the great and powerful Kenny Ortega confirms its existence.

What a strange trio

Jack sends Pie Eater, Snoddy and Snipeshooter as "embastards" to the Eastside. Am I the only one who thinks this is the most random combination of newsies? At the same time, would love to read this fanfic.

Cards Against Humanity: Newsies Edition, Part 2

Can we also talk about his ~40 y/o stunt double. Almost as good as Spot "Massive Forearms" Conlon.

im sorry WHAT

calling kenny rn, because what do you mean "prepares for a stunt" PINTREST WHAY DO YOU MEAN

Cards Against Humanity - Newsies Edition - Part 4

Part 3

Part 2

Part 1

Jack Kelly Edition